Siren SMG. Find one that beats this?
So I have checked the first page or two of the forum and it seems people area really up in arms about the SMG's. Thus far I'm the exact opposite. I'm wondering if anyone has found a non multiplier smg better then this:
kka330 violent bruiser
Damage 130
Accuracy 85.0
Fire rate 8.1
+61% dmg
-3% fire rate
I have yet to find a better SMG 1/5th of the way through my 2nd play through. Just wondering if anyone has a better one?
By the way, with my current perk setup... the damage, accuracy and such should be:
+25 crit hit damage
+35% accuracy = 120% accuracy
+10% bullet damage = +13 damage
+100% bullet velocity
+20% bullet damage = +26 damage
+48% bullet damage +62 damage
total damage per hit is around 231 going off of stats.
Real ingame damage on mobs 1-2 levels below me is around 350-400 per hit. Actually 916 crits on same level badmutha mobs, and anything lower then 4 levels, crits go for 1500... Whats not to like about SMG's guys? SMG/siren combo owns... and the 5k crits I get from sniper rifles is awesome too I really love my siren now, early game, she sucked baad... now, well now the games bosses are a joke and I'm plowing through everything as if it wasn't there... It's awesome :)
Just had to share! Carry on!
-Savage
HX 440 C Combustion Hellfire
Damage:159
Accuracy:93.5
Fire Rate: 12.5
X4 Incendiary
I have a couple more wepons that rape face off but you were just asking for an smg
I must admit, the hellfire line is one of my favorites for SMG, although I am also partial to double anarchy. I must admit though, although SMG's are designed for rapid fire, i much prefer more powerful and accurate SMG's than faster rate of fire types. Ammo regen is good, but not essential. Then again, i prefer revolvers and sniper rifles, so my opinion is moot.
HX 2 Double Anarchy-Epic (Purple)
Damage 73 X4
Accuracy 34.2
Fire rate 12.5
3.9x Weapon Zoom
+14 Magazine size
+33% Recoil ReductionThis thing eats Mobs and poops out experience like Jared at Subway. I can take down Bad Mutha mobs of the same level in one magazine. Very nice.
was asking for non multiplied guns thanks tho :)
Conid where did you find this SMG? I have to admit, the incendiary is nice. I havent used ele weaps in quite some time on my siren *odd eh?*
This sounds awesome too, where did you find it? do you remember?
I disagree with Lord of Skag (rare, I think most of your opinions are spot on), in that I believe an SMG needs a fire rate of 8 or more or it's not really an SMG. That's why SMGs fire small bullets, so they can get them out faster. Jus sayin.
Also, saying no multiplied guns is a bit pointless. With my hunter accuracy modifiers, my double anarchy (45x4) is almost as accurate, has a faster fire rate, a biger clip, etc, etc. It's altogether better. Still, I do prefer single bullet weapons, but I can'tput my finger on why. :S
Just a quick note to foxy. In no way did i mean to come across as saying what an SMG is or isnt. I was merely saying the types that i prefer. A high rate of fire is excellent, as long as it does not sacrifice too much accuracy. That was my point, i find an SMG next to useless unless the accuracy is above 70%, either by skills or the weapon itself. I cant stand when i line up a great shot that doesnt go where its meant too.
Thank you btw, its nice to know that my opinion is valued.
I agree with you Skag.
What I have been doing is when I have several weapons that I want to test I stand in New Haven next to the weapon vendor and shoot at the guy with the dual beer can hat down the road. I once shot a full auto weapon at him and I could see the bullet holes hitting all around his head but few seemed to hit him.
I prefer SMGs to use, but if the accuracy is low I just wait for something with more accuracy.

I play a Siren as well and they're fun.
With the Mercenary Mod at 23 Ammo Regen..I can go full auto non stop and not deplete bullets with this gun. It regens them faster then I can shoot them and with reload speeds at 50 skill...it's like not stopping at all....pretty fun the first time I stood on the hill and went all out on the Hive.
SV5 Malevolent Savior
Damage 139
Accuracy 90.2
Fire Rate 14.6
+18 Ammo Regeneration
+37% Reload
+27% Damage